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 Building a new rod from an old rod

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PostSubject: Building a new rod from an old rod   Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:30 am

I am attempting to rebuild an old rod that Ive had for along time, it is an 8 foot two piece rod,, it is too long for me and has too few guides,,only 4 guides, so I cut the tip off 6 inches and cut the butt off 12 inches,, making it a 6' 6" rod, I plan on painting the blank a red color and goin back with 8 stainless steel guides with silver metallic underwraps and black guide wraps and a stainless tip top, 10 inch rear grip, aluminum real seat, and an 8 inch fore grip,,,
here is a pic of the name brand rod



I used a hacksaw to cut the rod with



I removed all the guides and wraps



And Im using a razor blade to remove the white finish from the rod and then I plan on painting the rod a red color, Im still tryin to figure out the best way to paint the blank, If anybody has experience in roduilding , the help will be appreciated!!
I wouldnt be goin thru all this trouble to rebuild this old rod, but Ive had it for along time and it survived the bottom of my boat during the trotlining days, so I know it is a tuff one,LOL!

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PostSubject: Re: Building a new rod from an old rod   Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:58 am

If you want a decent finish that will actually last and continue to look good, use a decent quality 2 part epoxy or urethane finish.

Klass Kote is a decent product (2 part epoxy I think) that is targeted to modeling hobbyists. You could also try to tint some permagloss and apply it to the rod.
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PostSubject: Re: Building a new rod from an old rod   Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:18 am

interesting let me know how it turns out popcorn
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PostSubject: Re: Building a new rod from an old rod   Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:28 pm

is this gonna be one of ur angling rods or just a fishing rod ????? Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Building a new rod from an old rod   Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:38 pm

Thanks Gottafish! I surely want a good finish that will hold up and look good,,I checked out the klasskote and it seems to be the way to go but I dont have an airbrush gun,, I wonder,,would I be able to apply it with a brush or my finger?? and the permagloss idea is good too , I guess I could use testors model paint to tint it with, wonder how much testors would be too much or not enuff?? and on the 2 part epoxy (like flexcoat in a lite build?) , I guess I could use testors paint also,, Im thinkin this is the way to go for me, prolly the easiest,LOL!

Drifter, Ill keep Yall posted on this project, dont give up on me,LOL, it looks like its gonna be several weeks to a few months untill I finish this rodbuild!

Cactus Bob, yes its gonna be my anglin/fishin rod,LOL, seriously though, Im hopin it to be a good flathead rod for fishin the Big Black at night,,short to keep close to the boat and not too stiff a tip but kinda stout to keep thems flats away from the log jams,,, You know how much I enjoy buildin fishin stuff,LOL
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PostSubject: Re: Building a new rod from an old rod   Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:56 pm

Im moving kinda quickly along with this rodbuild,I have the rod about halfway stripped and I hope to have it painted by this weekend,, I am gonna use an automotive primer and finish designed for plastic bumpers and such, thanks to a friend of mine that is a paint and body man, and I hope to get all the components ordered by tuesday,,so Im hopin to finish this rod in 2 or 3 weeks from now, here is a pic of the rod, halfway stripped,,

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PostSubject: Re: Building a new rod from an old rod   Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:29 am

Is the rod going to match you flap shirt?
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PostSubject: Re: Building a new rod from an old rod   Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:48 am

Every good Angler needs a good Angler shirt!!!!!!! lol! aint that right Scott! You must really like that rod to spend the time on it, I spect it will look just fine when yer done. Git er Done
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PostSubject: Re: Building a new rod from an old rod   Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:23 pm

Grumpy, as a matter of fact , I am going shopping tomorrow for a new flappy shirt to match my new rod!!

Mac, I like the rod alot but it was just too long and didnt have enuff guides on it and the real seat is broken, one tuff blank tho, you and Everett seen it when yall fished with me, prolly dont remember it tho.
I have another one just like it and im gonna rebuild it too,, as soon as I finish this one and I have an old rod of Freds that his Dad gave him and im gonna rebuild it too, but im gonna try to stay as close as original on it as I can,,

Any of yall know the difference between E-glass and a Fiberglass rod??
How do I tell the difference, if any ??
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PostSubject: Re: Building a new rod from an old rod   Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:07 pm

I got the rod painted today, I put on 3 coats of primer, 5 coats of paint, and 4 coats of clear,,, no particular reason for the number of coats, thats just what it took to look good to me

Here are a few pics





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PostSubject: Re: Building a new rod from an old rod   Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:54 am

e-glass is just the type of fiberglass material used to build the blank. I think s-glass is the other type available which actually is lighter, stiffer and stronger but more expensive than e-glass blanks. Because it's stiffer, it's also easier to break.

e-glass is the way to go with cat rods.

This is a shot from the hip. I looked into it several years ago but haven't checked any references lately.

The blank looks good.
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PostSubject: Re: Building a new rod from an old rod   Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:56 pm

Thanks for the info and the compliment, Ill try to get some better pics, Im just usin my cell phone for now, when I got home this evening I gave the paint a finger nail test,lol, I know it is prolly too soon, but I couldnt help it,lol,,,the paint held up good and felt real good as compared to the original finish,,

In the pic of the tip it looks real blunt, but it is a size 10 and the butt measures .79 inches
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PostSubject: Re: Building a new rod from an old rod   Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:04 pm

Let it cure for a couple days then give it the bend test. Looks real nice.
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PostSubject: Re: Building a new rod from an old rod   Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:12 pm

OK, thanks Mac, I feel pretty sure the finish is A OK, but I will wait a few more days to bend test it, I have banged it all over the house in the last few days(on accident,LOL) showin it off to everybody that comes over to the house,,,,,just try to tote your rod around the house or somewhere without bangin it on somethin?!!

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PostSubject: Re: Building a new rod from an old rod   Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:30 pm

reason i say that is I want to know if all that paint is gonna crack! What kind of paint did you use anyways? Some paints have flexibility and others set up hard as a rock and will crack. Hope you got a flexible paint LOL. affraid
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PostSubject: Re: Building a new rod from an old rod   Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:19 pm

Mac, I cant tell you the name brand of paint rite now but I will find out and let you know, I got the paint from a friend that is an automotive painter and he says as long as it is an automotive paint it will work on a rod,,whether it has a flex agent or not,, the way he explains it is "how many dents have you seen in cars over the years with cracked paint? other than a crease?" he assures me that the rod will break before the paint cracks!
And I went ahead and gave it a bend test this evening and the paint didnt even think about crackin,, I think its way better of a finish than a factory built rod, but the paint job on my blank would cost way more than the complete factory built rod, I got the paint for free and I still have about 30 bucks in the supplies for preppin the blank and thats not including about 2 hours worth of labor for strippin the blank and then about 3 hours(drying time in between coats included) for applyin all the coats of primer, paint and clear coat,,, it sure is alot of fun tho,LOL!

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PostSubject: Re: Building a new rod from an old rod   Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:33 pm

Good deal then, bet you added some extra strength to it. When you gonna wrap those eyes? Lots of fun.
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PostSubject: Re: Building a new rod from an old rod   Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:54 pm

Mac, I just got around to ordering my grips,reel seat,epoxies, threads and eyes today, I guess it will be toward the end of next week before I get the components in,,, and in the mean time Im workin on building a rod wrapper, I will post pics of it too

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